Chris joins Katy on Not A Great Whisperer Podcast to discuss infidelity, betrayal and addiction.They are not the sexiest topics but as a couple Katy and Chris are very motivated to help others and tell their story to put an end to the shame associated with infidelity and addiction. Katy and Chris talk about how society has normalized very toxic behaviors especially in the sports industry and entertainment industry. The normalization of infidelity, lying and addictive behaviors is common in mainstream messaging and the lack of resources to get help is disheartening. We discuss this topic from both perspectives of being betrayed and the betrayer. Chris talks about the work he does everyday to continue to be the best man he can for himself and his family. Enjoy listening to the difficult, real, and unedited conversation with Katy and Chris.