To celebrate the holiday season, our host Katy Rey joins Not a Great Whisperer Podcast as a guest and our guest host of the day is Katarina. We discuss her gratitude and where she is today and the life experiences that have helped mold her. She discusses how her labels do not define her and loving others and treating people with respect is at her core. A daughter of divorce, daughter to an openly gay man, ex felon, college graduate, professional woman, infertile female, mother, survivor of infidelity and wife of a recovering addict are just some of the labels she has been given over the years. Her story is her own and her journey is inspiring. Giving others hope and reminding them to keep themselves as a top priority is important to her. At any stage in life you have the ability to change your narrative and turn your life around. Enjoy the real, unedited conversation with Katy and Katarina.